Escape the Fate Responds to Ronnie Radke
Published on August 7, 2008 by Dallas VonKillbot · 128 CommentsIf you haven’t been following this story, I would suggest checking out our previous posts here and here.
Usually I love the immaturity that spawns from bullshit band situations like this. There’s a certain art, however, to going about making yourself look good when you’re in a position like bass player Max Green is in now. How hard can it be to be the better man when the other guy in question is in jail from skipping parole, having battery charges and was in a brawl that left a kid dead? Well, I’ll let his blog do the talking…
To Ronnie Radke formely of Escape The Fate
Current mood: fuckin over it
I REALLY HOPE THAT RONNIE LEARNS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS OWN ACTIONS BECAUSE HE NEVER EVER HAS, AND THAT WAS ALWAYS THE REASON FOR PROBLEMS IN THE BAND.
HE WENT OUT TO THE DESERT THAT DAY, HE BROUGHT A WEAPON AND HE CHOSE TO NOT QUIT DOING DRUGS.
ALL THE WHILE I PRACTICALLY BEGGED HIM NOT TO GO TELLING HIM HOW ITS NOT WORTH IT AND WHO CARES.
All capslock? UNLEASH THE FURY!!!!!
AND AS FAR AS ME BEING THE CULPRIT AND DESERVING TO BE IN PRISON INSTEAD OF RONNIE…….WELL THATS THE BIGGEST LOAD OF SHIT IVE EVER HEARD, I DIDNT BRING A WEAPON TO A FIST FIGHT, I DIDNT TELL MY FRIENDS TO COME BACK ME UP AND TELL THEM TO BRING THEIR GUNS, I DIDNT STEAL MY DRUMMERS BAND DEBIT CARD AND SPEND ALL OF EVERYONES HARD EARNED MONEY ON DRUGS AND THEN LIE AND ACCUSE OTHER PEOPLE OF IT. AND I DONT HAVE A RECORD FOR DRUGS AND OTHER SHIT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT I DONT HAVE A RECORD FOR ANYTHING AND I HAD NO INVOLVEMENT AT ALL IN ANY WAY WITH THE EVENTS THAT HAPPENED THAT DAY IN THE DESERT.
AS FAR AS PEOPLE SAYING RONNIE NEEDS A 2ND CHANCE AND ITS NOT FAIR, WELL HES HAD WAY TO MANY 2ND CHANCES, AFTER REHAB, AFTER THE INVOLVEMENT IN THE MURDER, AFTER THE PROBATION, AFTER GETTING KICKED OFF TOURS FOR DELIBERATELY STARTING PROBLEMS WITH THE WRONG PEOPLE AND ABOUT A MILLION OTHER TIMES AS WELL.
SORRY RONNIE OR WHOEVER WROTE THAT BLOG FOR HIM, BUT YOU WERE NEVER THE BAND, PERIOD.
YOU CAN THINK YOU ARE AND THAT YOU DID EVERYTHING ALL YOU WANT, BUT YOUR WRONG!!
YOUR A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND, AND NOW THAT YOUR NOT IN THE BAND ANYMORE WE CAN ACTUALLY ACT LIKE A REAL BAND AND GO ON TOUR AND LEAVE THE UNITED STATES, LIKE HOW WE JUST WENT TO NEW ZEALAND AND AUSTRALIA.ILL NEVER LIVE IN YOUR SHADOW AND I WOULD NEVER WANT TO, I DONT RESPECT YOU AND I DONT ADMIRE OR LOOK UP TO YOU IN THE LEAST BIT OF ANY WAY.
NOT YOUR FRIEND,
MAX GREEN
Kinda TL;DR, but I know the fan-girls will appreciate it. I listened to their music for the first time yesterday, and needless to say I wasn’t too impressed.
Tags: Drama, drama lama, escape the fate, Max Green, ronnie radke, shitty music
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wow…. I can’t even image how Max must feel about this… I’m pretty sure it must suck though, no offence… trusting and be friends with some, caring about them, then having them no pay attettion to that… Sorry max.
Max? oh, i think he’s doing fine… he’s not the one getting pounded from behind in jail.
you’re so right about that [:
i swear it upon what i hold dear… i was at escpae the fates third show ever i was captivated by the band and i loved thier music ronnie was awesoem, gorgeous and sexy singing with you guys and you guys have replaced him i will never buy your records again until you rbign back ronnie joesph radke
u guys need 2 get over it wuts done is done
i was os upset to find that ronnie was put away. theres something about him that attracts me to his, his cheeky smile and great charisma. i love ronnie escape the fate music and it just doent seem like its escape the fate without ronnie. even though he is responsible for that serious shit he did. i want to forgive him so i can see the REAL escape the fate. i think max was a bit harsh and even though ronnie did that, he was still one of them, and in something like that, everyone is always somehow involved .
sorry. i love ronnie
katie xx
hi its katie from the previous sept3rd blog. do you agree with me? i am sad that i will never get to see a real etf concert since they are split up.
parole officers are gay!! – how does it feel when tears freeze, when you cry? the blood in your veins is 20 below!!!!
let ronnie go!!!!
hey losers dont any1 leave a reply? its sat13sept. does any1 agree with my view?
Katiexx
ps dallasvonkillbot-get a real name and u suck.
y dont u reply to any of the katie comments? too pussy- aye?
Katie,
Sorry. This is my job and I don’t even spend this much time trolling the internet. Get up, go outside, get some fresh air.
MAX GREEN, YOU’RE A FUCKING CUNT!!
i agree with katie.
i’ve gone to different sites to clarify all this drama between max and ronnie and i must say, the whole situation sucks. Ronnie WAS the band regardless of what max says. Max has let everything go to his head. No one listened to the band for max it was all for Ronnie, he was and ALWAYS will be the face of Escape the Fate.
Listen to this, I’ve seen Escape the fate grow since the begining.
Their music was great so shut the fuck up about all this “Escape the fate music is not impressed blah blahh blahhhh”.
I’m pissed with all this shitt.
okay, Number 1, Ronnie and the band Will ALWAYS be the original band, Craig and the band, Arn’t the same.
They should either change their name or get outta heree.
I understand max is really pissed with all of Ronnies bad decisions and I know he may be a bad person in your eyes or even in the bands eyes, but man, Maybe hes going though something rough.
I understand the drugs and rehab but why replace him with craig?
I mean, like , You guys ruined 2 great bands, Bless the fall and Escape the fate.
Both lead singers were great in their original bands and now this, What the hell is this suppost to be?
Craig just has to leave for a meesly week for his baby girl and he comes back but the band doesn’t want him back.
So ronnie has to get into some shit fight and get arrested.
There we’re left with ronnie in jail and Craig as Etf’s new singer.
Personally I love the band, and I love ronnie.
I do want him back alot, it will just makke the band whole again.
Max, I love you too but sometimes you just have to forgive.
Even 18th chances, but the band needs to be the Original Band again!
ya it is kinda sad but hu said max isnt 4giving and hu said that ronnie wont b coming bak 2 ETF all u hav 2 do is wait and hu nos mayb both bands will change their names but personaly i think that wuts done is done and u just need 2 xcept the fact that ronnies no longer there.
Sorry dude but yes you will be living in his shadow. Ronnie was the shit in the band and now its fucked over. Be prepared for sales to drop because they really will now. And don’t even act like being in the band before sucked, because you were majorly popular even if you couldnt leave the states. People loved you guys but not as much any more. Without Ronnie, your shit. BTW the flood sucks ass.
I agree with Nat, Jade , Shabink, and Jenna.
Ronnie4ever<3
I like Ronnie, But if he’s messed up on drugs n shit, maybe he does need a lil jail time, I do understand where u guys are coming from on how “craigs not ronnie” But Craig did damn good on tht new song the flood, and yea the band wont be the same anymore, but maybe craig can improve it somehow
MAX GREEN IS A MOTHERFUCKER !
u so dont no that!! dont judge until u no
Ronnie didnt even bring a weapon? The other people did.
just go and watch this youtube video if you want the real story, oh and max green is a low life peice o shit. xP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQf5gJ4eoL4
Max your just a bass player! anybody can replace you, you dont bring anything good to the band, the only reason ANYBODY pays attention to the “lame ass bass player” is because of your looks, YOU HAVE NO TALENT! and you suck even more for screwing over your best friend for nine years!
yes ronnie did do drugs, so what? its just fucking drugs its not like it makes him a bad person.
Ronnie’s never going back to escape the fate just so you all know, he’s starting a new band and his new band will leave escape the fate in the dust.
RONNIE ALL THE WAY!
FUCK MAX GREEN!
Again, to hear the real story, heres a link to a the jail interview with ronnie radke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQf5gJ4eoL4
This band is a fucking joke and sucks more cock than the fat chicks that dig them. Listen to Sabbath.
worst. band. EVAR. seriously, their legion of fat scene girls is the only thing more disgusting to their music. Listen to Ride the Lightning.
Dallas VonKillbot hey fag get a life fucking 22 year od dumb fuck
lulz
max needs to shut the fuck up
and so do u
craig mabbitt in escape the fate is sacreligious!!!!!
I’m going to see Escape The Fate in January, I’m pretty well certain it’s not going to be the same without Ronnie. Craig pretty much sucks ass man, Ronnie was a better screamer, and to be honest, you need someone whos a bit wild to be an awesome band. His voice is really unique. I do think that Ronnie will get back with ETF, i think Max will offer him a place back in the band when they see that Ronnie is doing well for himself. But i hope to god he DOES do well for himself and not fuck himself up man.
how do u no that craig isnt wild and did u ever think that when ETF kicked ronnie out that mayb at the same time he quit???
max has a point. and hey there bloop you guys need to stfu.
same for the rest of u morons who tallk s*** about max and craig
craig is wild last time i sall an escape the fate consert live MAX AND CRAIG KISS MY FRIND GOT THE HOLE THANG ON TAPE MAN
You’re all just ganging up on Ronnie. He made the band BEAST. And you all are just forgetting about him like that, just for some stupid mistakes? I’ll be honest, yes, he did fuck up, alot. But he has an amazing voice, and amazing lyrics and songs, and you guys can’t just forget about him like that. I’m not gonna lie, their new album, with Craig makes my ears bleed. And that motherfucker Craig should’ve just stayed with Bless The Fall, where he belongs. Ronnie will always be a badassmotherfucker
ok wtf
max can go suck a dickkk.
thatll give him something to sing about.
i mean like
i agree ronnie should be more responsible
but damn
max has butchered the band.
Fuck Max!
ronnie is legend and all u ever wanted to be was him. be true to yourself. don’t be such a fag and peer pressure someone thats actually got your fuckin back. your scum man. and after all this u would rather have fame then ur friend thats fuckin low. what the fuck is wrong with you. u know what Ronnie is gonna get somewhere now ….. just snort ur crack and live in ur little “Max is the Shit” world because no one is there but u.
Amber
I agree escape the fate is better off without ronnie. I was just recently at one of there shows and they were awesome and craig sounded great and so did the rest of the band. I hope I get to see them again at warped tour !!!!!!!!!
i totaly agree. and mayb bless the fall is better off without craig
Max is a fucking asshole. I love Ronnie and I support him. Max gave Ronnie and did drugs and he’s saying if I can stay clean I can stay with my band. What a son of a bitch. Craig can just go to hell.
Dude all you guys are going to hate me BUT.
Man, ronnie is a great singer an artist but okay. HE IS AN ASSHOLE AND THE BAND WOULD GO NO WHERE WITH HIM ATM.
Do some reasearch into the whole thing and see what shit he has done and said. Again he is a great singer, and two great bands, ETF & BTF have loss what was their original sound but ETF can’t make music, which is what it is about, with a singer in jail.
Listen to what craig has said. I know its harsh, but man, Ronnie is on drugs and is lost until he finds he way again without drugs, how can anyone expect anything of worth out of him.
I know all you guys love these guys, but people on drugs aren’t the real people you love.
Love the music, don’t love the musicians at the present time. Put your speaker on high, you’ll feel better about it.
are you seriouse? really? ronnie deserved everything he got! jail and being kicked outta the band and everything! it’s stupid that people keep on saying “give him a second chance”. dude, he’s hade 12 to many second chances. i side with maxy on this one. i’d kick him out to. he has a bad image and all that other crap.
and i understand drugs are addicting, but when you start soliciting money for them [i'm not saying all of it] then thats to far.
i’m glad ronnie is off the drugs now and he’s able to think clearly, but if you go and watch the jail interview it seems like nothing he’s saying is even right. i’m pretty sure some of it wasn’t eather…he was on drugs up untill he went to jail…
and all that crap about Craig trying to be ronnie? seriosuly? no. he’s not. craig has always been like this. some people go through little changes everyone in a while, but becoming someone complietly different b/c you joined a band? no. craigafer is craigafer…he will always be craigafer
so stop your fucking rumors because no one is buying them. they are lies and the people who came up with them have no lives
Hey listen guys! I can’t help it! Even tough ronnie is in JAIL, I still think he is awesome~! I agree with what Katie said on sept. 3rd! I want the real Escape The Fate back! No offence Craig but u can never be Ronnie and all TRUE ETF fans will always kinda resent u!!!!!!! I still love all the ETF guys but I don’t listen to u as much because I always think of poor Ronnie sitting in a cold jail cell wasting away!!!!!
And Max!!!!!!! I’ll always have very much love and respect for u but seriously If u were really frriends with ronnie and u really cared about him then u would forgive him when he gets out and let him back in the band!!!!!!!
i love how everyone’s saying ronnie was the band, cuz it’s funny, i’m an escape the fate fan and i listened to them for the BAND.
as far as the craig thing, i wish ppl would shut the fuck up about it. w/o him there wouldn’t BE a band. it doesn’t have to be an all or nothing situation.
and about max giving ronnie more chances, well… i have friends like that and by giving them more chances, your enabling their problem
i actually have a lot of respect for max for writing this. it takes balls to stand up to someone you care about
blah, ETF u guys r NOTHING w/out ronnie even though he SCREWD up//wow\\ sorry green but dude he was like the band… but ur still kinda hot green– RONNIE <3
To all the “Give Ronnie a Second Chance” people, just give it up, he was an immature child you doesn’t deserve the respect you all give him, ETF has Craig now and they are way better with him cause he can actually sing, he has no drug problems and plus he has a child and a responsibility to a band, and being in a band i know the family element that comes with it, and he wouldn’t do anything dumb like killing a kid or stealing other band members money for drugs to jeopardize his position. In my opinion Ronnie Radke should have gotten a life sentence, and i wish the best of luck to ETF and a quick healing to the family of Michael Cook. And to RAZVAN OKINAWA not buying an album just because Ronnie isn’t singing any more doesn’t make you cool or an individual, it just makes you a close minded douchebag! everyone who doesn’t like Craig can go fuck themselves!
hey dude max is cool but he is mistaken ronnie was the band and he must feel like shit because like or not they were friends but i mean good luck to the new escape the faate with craig and all but i still wish the best for ronnie and feel bad for max
this is pretty intense stuff
Ronnie needs to face up to what he’s done. and i’m a fan of Escape The Fate when they had him and now they don’t.. i’m not a pathetic fan girl and i have never seen them live. i had respect for Ronnie and its now gone. people need to stop acting like he was brilliant in every way. he made a mistake and he made the choice to do what he wanted to do which ended in him being in prison…. now give Max a break. he just wants whats best for the band and he has every right to say what he wanted to say.
Look,Escape the Fate is the SHIT.
I listen to them a million times a day.
It’s hard to know which story to believe between both Ronnie and Max.I honestly think it’s total bullshit that Max said Ronnie wasn’t the band.He was what kept the band going mainly.I’ve watched so many interviews with the band,and I’ve seen how close Ronnie and Max were and it’s really sad how that friendship after so many years is over.THEY WERE HOMELESS TOGETHER,and now it’s over?Ronnie was and is still amazing.I’m sticking to their old music,none of the new stuff.I love you Ronnie Radke.
and you Max…
Craig,go suck a DICK.
Well max has his opinions, although i LOVEE ronnie he has done wrong but he dosent diserve to be treated like this
,, Max might just be sayin this cause hes anrgy. ! dont give him Shit aboutt it seriouslyy i wuld react like this if i was in his position !!SO BACK THE FUCK OFF! lovee youu MAX! X- D
D’ya know what.
my opinion has so damn changed since i listened to the phone call with Ronnie and a reporter man on youtube.
it was brilliant. and it reduced me to tears tbf.
Ronnie Radke is brilliant. and i do prefer the old stuff of ETF.
he wasnt “the band” but he gave it a strong almost family like bond. and no one, no one could ever replace him. with all due respect for craig he has a good voice. but hes not good enough for escape the fate and never will be.
i’d like to give Ronnie a hug.
i really would.
x
Wow max could you grow the fuck up, like I know Ronnies a fucking retard for doing that shit.
But seriously your not making anything better…
Ask like about 100 different people who likes craig and who likes Ronnie and most would be RONNIE!
=] <3
Max should shut the fuck up and die in a fucking hole . Max your nothing , just a shit guitar player , Ronnie wrote the songs , hes the one with the voice , your just back up. Some friend letting ronnie (NO MAKING RONNIE) take the fall , wow your a real man , grow a pair. To all Max Greens fans , you should just shut the hell up. Ronnie 4 ever. What you think Craig is good , bull shit hes just like every other singer in every other band , hes the norm , no way is he as great as a singer as Ronnie. Craig should have stuck with BTF or go and share the hole that max should die in.
I think all of you should just get over yourselves. the fight does not even involve any of your opinions. Whatever is going on between Ronnie and Max is strictly between Ronnie and Max, not Ronni, Max and fans…Escape the Fate haterz should just get a life. If you don’t like Max or Craig in ETF then don’t waste your “precious” time reading about them.
I personnally love Ronnie in ETF and FBTW and I love Max AND Craig in ETF. Everyone should just move on and get over themselves.
<333
you know what? im so pissed!!
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craig isn’t HALF as good, and i basically cry every time i think how ill never see etf with ronnie. Max is a total ass, a betrayer, a horrid friend….well ex-friend.
Ronnie went to that fight unarmed because some guy threatened him, and because they threatened to jump Max. Now, i think a good friend would try to stick up for you, wouldn’t they? ronnies a good friend. Ronnie went unarmed, so did max, but the others didn’t. 12 v.s 4, it was hell. and ronnie was left with the charges, seems a bit unfare, no one else got time doesn’t it?
Now Mx is going on and on about Ronnies drug problem, yeah, he did do drugs, and he addmited it openly, saying he needed help. On the otherhand, this asshole shit head of a friend ‘max’ does a drug too, something called cottenyoy or something like that (not fermiliar with my drugs
So, whos the real backstaber and druggy max? try answering truthfuly. for once.
I love you ronnie <3
Just an update: Today a video leaked from ETF’s Warped set, and Craig said that Ronnie was caught with heroin on him in prison.
If that is all well and true, that means there’s no way he’s getting paroled and he’ll probably tack on 3-5 years onto the sentence.
I wouldn’t be holding my breath for that new side project to start up.
u no wut yeh u guys have a point but tha doesnt relly mean yall guys keep on hating i mean seriously get this fact straight “RONNIE IS NEVER GOING BACK TO EF”besides a couple of yall guys say fergive ronnie but y dont yall guys fergive max himself im pretty shure max wouldnt offer him nywayz i no he screwed up a bunch but (just my opinion n case others are afraid to speak up) th new escape the fate kinda kicks ass i mean i would buy there album they kinda have a little bit more screamo into it (kinda) n yesh falling in reverse also kicks ass 2 yall guys stop being so god dam stubborn n just ferget th fact tha they just flat out h8 each other then okay awsome but i have a major question tha confuses meh like crazy….kay Max was supposely ronnie’s best frawnn but when they were frends max said ronnie was never a part of th band i could say wtf th singer’s one of th most important ppl n th band but if nyone gets wut he relly means id appreiate u telling meh
Ronnie thought the band was all about him and only about him. he said that he’s not the band not that he was never in the band. so jea he’s basically saying that the band wasn’t all about him n whatnot…
ronnie neva thort the band was all about him he cared for alll ov thm but max was meant 2 be his best m8 but no he went behind his back many ov tyms n max neva tld him 2 quit the drugs it was the ufa way round n the new ETF ARE SHIT n i hope u all rot in hell if ur gonna say shit lyk tht bout ronie wen he neva did owt n yh ronnie doin his tym 4 wot he did in the desert but he will soon be out 2 join the new best band in the world FALLING IN REVERSE n if ya dnt lyk it thn its touch shit coz he not on the drugs n he will neva go bk on thm unlike max hu is still on thm n i hope he rots in hell the fuckin knobhead
JUDII GO SUCK A DICK U FUCKING BITCH THE SCREAMO IS GOOD AND ALL BUT RONNIE IS MUCH BETTER ETF SHOULD JUST STICK TO THE ORIGINAL SINGER AND CRAIG SHOULD JUST GO TO FUCKING HELL OR BLESSTHEFAGGOT
woo im not the onli 1 tht h8z craig faggott
Wow…
Seriously get over it max, you set him up, you wanted him out of the band. oh and one more thing. Ronnie is 10 times better than Craig, by a longgggggggg shot. Ronnie is going to do sooo much better without them, and this is what he needs. Ronnie your amazing.<3
yh but he wont admit 2 settin ronnie up even tho evry1 nos he did the dickhead n i think evry1 nos ronnie beta thn craig
you so right i cant belive that they chose craig and he will never ever sing situations as good as ronnie o and max and craig go suck each others dicks if you even have dicks its probably more like cocks
ok really ronnie was a great singer but hes gone and has a new band that is amazing and craig is still really good so just give him a chance and stop hating
you guys all suck, ronnie is so coool, so :b
one word
motherfuckers like judii needs to get a lyfe idk y yer heree n da first place
is it to ask sum retarded question or
to stand up fr da new ETF b/c
i personally as vrybody eles
find ronnie innocent n btw NO WE
WONT GET OVER IT UNTIL RONNIE
GOES BAC TO WHERE HE BELONGS
ronnie fr ever!!!! everyone luvs
ronnie not max px
actually i prefer max,but ronnie is a wayyyyy better singer than this new fool.
ronnie fuckin rocks so does craig max is a dick but still is cool but he was a fucking duche to ronnie and any1 who thinks this band sucks fuck you dickheaded bitch
NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOO MAX IS A MONG RONNIE IS THE BETA LUKIN 1 AND HAS THE BETA VOICE AND ALWAYS WILL
hahaaa… wow seriously people need to get a life. max just did what he had to do to save the stinkin band. ronnie was preventing them from getting anywhere. ronnie is not innocent for any of the things he did. if you think doing drugs and getting into fights that get people killed is innocent then maybe you should be in jail too.
max wasnt tryin 2 help the band he thort it wud help gettin rid ov him 2 get a shit singer hu has now fucked the band up completely n he nos he did wrong wen he did the drugs but at least he aint doin em no more unlike max n at least wen ronnie cums out him and his new band will have more fans thn the new etf so fukin grow up n let go off the past or is tht 2 much 4 evry1
I gree. gimme a fuckin break this isnt 1 life to live. both singers rock and both bands kick ass.! however for all u dumbfucks who r all on ronnies dick, the guy is a shity live preformer and thats the fuckin truth! he has a nice autotuned voice but craig is better live and a better screamer and overall a better entertainer. any1 who dissagrees can eat a dick!
you crack me up kid, ronnie didnt prevent them from going anywhere, he was the talent in the band, you may be a craig faggot fan but ronnie was always the talent in etf and hes the reason they are where they are now.
I AGREE BUT I LIKE MAX BUT NOT CRAIG HE NEEDS TO EAT A DICK
soo agree:p
th least we could du is try to get over it ourselves
Talk about immature. Max is a 2 sided idiot.
“All capslock? UNLEASH THE FURY!!!!!” Lol,
well i have to say i love the new escape. and there getting on better without ronnie. i still love ronnie thow and i hope one day he succeeds in life. but to escape the fate. ROCK ON FORVER. \M/(>.<)\M/
U FUCKING BITCH
ronnie is beta thn max anyday n no thy aint thy got shit but wen thy had ronnie in it thy was amazin but craig fuked thm up bad n wen ronnie cums out he already got a new band so go FALLING IN REVERSE
Yeah Ronnie is definitely better than Max and he always will be- no doubt about it. What haters dont know is that Ronnie has had a fucking hard life!!!!!!!! He was abandoned by his mother and raised by his stubborn-hearted father, Ronnie did drugs because he was peer pressured into it by his “Friends” and because through his teenage years he couldnt find a true love, his brother is on drugs and has kids to raise, and he was accused as guilty for someone dying when he didnt even bring the gun NOR shoot it! Fucking haters do your research first before you hate!And im not against ETF with Mabitt either! I love their song ’10 Miles Wide’ but I also love Falling in Reverse’s ‘ new songs, and Ronnie is right! He is extremely smart with his lyrics, magically he turns tragidy into melodies over catchy beats- and if you haters cant realise that then your mind is truly fucked up!
Okay, he may have done so wrong, but that blog was a little to harsh, dont you think? He could at least have taken out the caps. I still love max though xD
no shit it was but max is harsh n cant face the truth so no max can go burn in hell
WITH YA STACIE!
ok you mnother fuckers face it ronnie has problems he needs help and maybe jail will help him. im actually glad hes not in the fucking band if hes going to act like a child then he shouldent be in the band especally if hes doing that to his friends and spending other peoples money he deserves jail he DOES NOT belong in the band! and if you disagree with me i really dont care and ronnie should go get a life just because of drugs and other unneeded stuff look at where he is now. JAIL!! so all of you who want to be like him or think he needs a second chance i belive he does not need a second chance he shouldent have one and all i can say is its not my fault for those of you who get mad at me for a stupid reson. ronnie needs help and hes not getting help with rehab or any of the other shit maybe jail will give him time to think about his actions.
LOOK U STUPID MOTHERFUCKER U HAVE FUCKIN PROBLEMS GO FIND SOME PUSSY CUZ UR JUST A FUCKEN BITCH AND AN ASSHOLE
actually ronnie has probs only got problems coz ov all the shit max did 2 him n yh u wud be glad he aint in the band coz u lyk 2 faced fuckers so yh n he didnt do nuffin 2 thm it was thm treatin him lyk shit n he neva used any1s money he gave money 2 craig so he cud luk afta his daughter n luk how tht bastard repayed him the knobhead he needs 2 jump off a cliff n die the 2 faced cocksuckin jerk. n ronnie got a lyf n he aint doin the drugs n hasnt been 4 a while u dog n evry1 deserves anufa chance n obviously he is ufa wise he wudnt be gettin the help now wud he n he wud ov been out on the 14th ov feb but no sum1 decided 2 start a fight wiv him so he got longer so there
i hate this i belive ronnie is the best and max did fucking drugs with ronnie fucking asshole i hate max now i love ronnie yes he made mistakes ….i mean who doesnt its human nature 2 do so but yes he made more than nessicary but still max was a lier he was and always will be bc he was the 1 who hit omar in the face and he left the band and max and ronnie were best friends so yes he did do that stuff and pick fights with people there is a youtube vid of him saying that he has and he is shit point blank and i think max is just a jelouse jerk
i cant agree wiv u more katy
u know what fuck all of you that say max is a bitch ronnie stole from his friends and did drugs and took a gun to a fight so fuck all of you that think max is a bitch max fuckin rocks and ronnie had his chance more than once
so go fuck off bitches
max is not a bitch he a jumped up arigant prick hu needs 2 grow the fuck up n ronnie neva stole frm his m8z n evry1 makes mistakes if thy didnt thy wudnt be able to no the diiference between rong n rite reli wud thy NO n no max dusent rock ronnie dus n i cant wait 4 him 2 be let out oh n btw ronnie is beta thn any singer in the whole world n if u dnt lyk the truth thn do 1 n grow the fuck up
seriously… max is 100% right. he’s being mature through all this drama they’re going through. ya gotta do what ya gotta do right? well thts what he did. n seriously who are you ppl gonna believe? the dude who stole a bunch of money from the band for drugs or the dude who’s trying to get the band somewhere? ding ding ding we have a winner. n craig is pretty good for the band too. ^_^ the new escape the fate kicks ass. rock on. \M/
max be mature yr rite he was the 1 tht put ronnie in prison in the first place he did it 2 save his own back n shit on his so called best m8 n he neva took money 4 drugs it was max it was proven before hand theres a vid ov max sayin he tuk the money n he gonna blame ronnie so he cud get a new singer so explain tht thn
u no wut i think that yall need 2 get over the both of thm i mean hu nos if max is rite then hes rite and if ronnies “rite” then hes rite theirs no sayin hu is and hus not in my opinion thyr both pretty cool and whoever says that craig is a *&#%$ *&#%$#%$ then u all need 2 go die in an @$$*&^& hole b/c craig is F**** awesome
Ya so your a Fuckin Cunt. Suck my dick you pussy Bitch. I hope you step on a Land mine or some shit, and live so i can poke you while you crawl around. Your the definition of a chode. I hope you do come to America and get shot because your like a said, a pussy. No no, actually join the Telaban so our Bad Ass fuckin Military can spit some rounds at ya. Fuck i hate you! Ya and by the way, the United Stastes of America spends 550 billion annualy on defense, thats more than every country in the world combined. So fuck off, and Tom you Canadian this message is just for you also. America is the only reason why you still exist. You have no real military and dont need one because we got your back. But you wont read this because your most likely fucking a Moose. Peace bro
Ronnie is the best thing that happened to the band he has a badass voice and a hardcored scream and Max fucking suxs ass i went to their concert and he couldent make it threw the first song without loosing his gay voice he sucks ass and i want to kick his ass whos with me??
some one tht actually agrees wiv me ronnie is fukin amazin n cant wait for his release n yh ill join ya i fukin wish max wud burn in hell along wiv the rest ov thm
man he’s EFIIN GAYYY ronnie is the best and ALWAYS will be…. holla at meh o_O he CANTTTT sing their origanal songs… sorryyyy
hey wats ur # u sound hot lol and i agree with u babe lol
no1 can sing their songs propally apart from ronnie n btw max fuck a flood a strom is coming and when it hits its gonna hit hard so gud luk wiv craig ya gonna need 2 do beta thm him if FALLING IN REVERSE got ronnie n u aint
?hehe thanx manuel…. ps: i know you?
I LIKE MAX GREEN BUT RONNIE RADKE WAS GOING THREW THINGS OBVIOUSLY HES GETTING BETTER IN MY OPINION U SHOULDVE NEVER GOT THAT FAGGGGGG CRAIG MABBIT AS A SINGER HE IS A FUCKING HOMO HE CAN GO SIT IN THE DARK AND CRY ABOUT HIS FUCKING LIFE CUZ ALL HE IS IS A DUM FUCKING EMO HE SHOULD JUST QUIT THE BAND FOREVER CUZ EVEN THOUGH RONNIE WAS ON DRUGS IN THE PAST HES WAY BETTER OF A SINGER THEN CRAIG WILL EVER BE EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDNT GET TO GO ON TOURS AT LEAST THEY HAD RONNIE THE GOOD SINGER BCUZ CRAIGS VOICE JUST SOUNDS FUCKING HORRIBLE I LIKED THE OLD DAYS BETTER
join the club but ronnie is gonna turn out beta thn any ov thm coz he got a new band hu is totally awesome n kick ass unlike etf now ronnie was the best thing tht happened to thm but now ronnie knows he got ppl he can trust in his new band n at least thy wont give em shit unlike max n craig his so called best m8z n craig i dnt no how he has the cheek 2 join tht band wen he tuk 400 dolars off ronnie 2 join tht band not 2 luk afyta his daughter he neva had his wallet stolen from him he a bull shittin knobhead n needs his throat slittin
To be totally honesty: I hate Craig. Bottom line, and it has nothing to do with Ronnie. When I listen to ETF, I always look for that uniqueness in Ronnie’s voice. Which is no longer there. I should correct myself, I hate Craig as the new frontman of ETF, not as a person. Realize Craig hasn’t talked shit about Ronnie. YES there is a rumor that Craig said FIR was a scam to get money for drugs for Ronnie. That comment has no foundation as it was never released in a blog or comment posted by Craig. It was ‘supposedly’ said in an interview.
Take in to consideration the people, like Max, who are STILL bashing Ronnie. It’s ridiculous. Do I think Ronnie MAY have enticed it a LITTLE? Yes but if I was locked up all that time and finally got a chance to retaliate, I would too. Max is immature. Leave it at that. And if he ever came across this board: you have to be able to take the heat from people. Nickleback got rocks thrown at them in a Romania concert, I believe. Chad threw his guitar and they left the stage. Shit happens, people talk. If you want to be in a band: deal with it. People talk shit about my band all the time.
Ronnie is amazing, he made his mistakes. But from interviews that Ronnie did that I’ve watched, he never made the band out to be all about him. Although, as you can see it’s nowhere near the same without him. He may have talked that way amongst the band, but to the public he lifted the band with himself. Never just himself.
ETF is still a good band. The difference is their music style has changed. It’s no longer that odd cross between Punk-Rock/Grunge that it was before. And it does miss Ronnie’s unique vocals. Someone said “They scream more, it’s cool”. Yes they do, as I said they’ve changed the music style because Omar is gone, so you’ve lost your lead guitarist, your lead singer: you’re reforming half a band. It’s gonna change routes and styles. Personally, I thought the album was alright. If you ask me, coming from BlessTheFall, Craig has a lot of work to do to adapt to this new music style. I love BlessTheFall (more so now than with Craig). And once he adapts the band will sound better. Likely their next album will have that unique tone every singer brings to a band.
If you miss the sound of Escape the Fate, you’re going to have to be patient with Ronnie and Falling In Reverse. They are working. And it’s been stated that they are going to basically rebirth ETF with new songs, and clearly a new name. If you like the new music style, keep listening to ETF, if you don’t, move over to FIR.
Escape The Fate now has a sound similar to A Day To Remember with a hint of Alesana. Put them together and you’ll see what I mean. Maybe that’s your style, maybe it’s not. Regardless, people will like it. And for those of you who are growing restless waiting on Ronnie and his band;
“Ronnie Radke was actually released from prison on December 19th of 2009, and is working with his new band “Falling In Reverse.”
That’s over three months ago. There have been some difficulties arise, but things will smooth out and you can tune in to FIR and remember the good ole’ days of ETF.
Hope this helps some of you guys understand who to attack and why some of the things said, both by band members AND fans, are unnecessary. Craig didn’t cause Ronnie to get kicked out, remember. The BAND kicked him out then Craig was brought in as a replacement. He had nothing to do with the situations surrounding Ronnie’s jail time, or his removal from the band. Again, I dislike Craig IN the band. But that’s because it’s not the same music style that it use to me. It’s not terrible, but it needs work. Cut him some slack as a person. He is a good singer, I listened to BTF before he left and I liked him then.
Best of luck to BOTH band. In FIR in rebirthing the old ETF, and in Escape The Fate in birthing a new sound and a new route for the band.
-Caleb
I don’t think any of us has a right to get involved in the argument on what happened that night, or even a right to choose sides. The fact is as lead singers, both Ronnie and Craig, though differ in sound, bring or brought a lot of talent to ETF. So everyone grow up and get a life (I’m writing this in classs the only time I don’t have a life lol) but personally I have had many friends and family go to prison and though I am a relative I still see no right to judge or choose sides. What happened happened and in any case shit happens and those strong enough move on through the shit and grow stronger. Blah I’m rambling lol!
dude u r so rite!!! i usu. have side on things but 4 this i dont mainly b/c this is so stupid and we all need 2 grow up get a life and 4get this stupid thing evr happnd. max said wut he said and no1 can take that back so cry a river build a bridge and GET OVER IT!!!!! jeez!
MAX MENTION THAT HE IS NOT EVEN PART OF RONNIES LIFE, WHAT ABOUT HIM TAKING DRUGS WITH HIM ? BEING HIS BESTFRIEND AND HAPPY TIMES ? ISNT IT STILL PART OF IT ? FARK MAX, NO WONDER BLESSTHEFALL AND A WORD ALIVE WONT ACCEPT CRAIG MABBIT RETURN, CAUSE CRAIG HV BEEN OBSESSED BY RONNIE AND HIS BAND ETF, HE WENT EVERY TOUR WITH ETF, AND NOW HE STOLE THE FAME FROM RONNIE. HE ONCE TOLD THE MEDIA THAT BTF AND AWA, ARENT THAT HARDCORE LIKE ETF, WTF!!! CRAIG IS JUST JEALOUS AND FARK MAX AND CRAIG!!!!!!!!!!! TEAM RADKE ALL THE WAY!!!!!!! EVEN EVERYWHERE IN THIS WORLD LOVES RONNIE RADKE,
LOVE FROM HIS BIGGEST FAN IN SINGAPORE
ur a total idiot. GET OVER IT!!! no1 needs 2 flont around hu they like and y b/c wuts done is done and u all need 2 GIV IT A REST WITH THE FRIGGIN SMACK TALK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And while we give it a rest, do you want to learn how to spell?
#caps lock attack.
Stacie learn how to fuckin spell thats all i have to say.. fuckin annoying ass bitch.. Damn
*fucking. Sorry, you had a spelling mistake.
This is retarded Max never wrote this. Max even said himself that he would still want to be ronnies friend once he got clean again. so yeah…this is bull.
Ronnie is WAY better than Craig and Max is a bitch you were supposed to be ronnies bestfriend but no you fucked him over. Maybe he was into drugs but oh well you still shouldnt have fucked him over like that falling in reverse is gonna rock and escape the fate will SUCK (:
okay van someone please explaine to me the EXACT story about ronnie radke and max green.
i would realy apreciate it! thanx 
People just think they know but to be honest, I really don’t think anyone but them will know the full truth as both of them will twist the story in their own way.
Escape the fate without ronnie will never be the same thing
he was the most fucked up, I followed him my whole life *-* ‘
first of all shut the fuck up and mind ur godf=damn business damn giving me a fucking migran bitches:/
and second of all.. learn to spell! Also, get some grammar skills.
Oh, one more thing, if you have a migrain GO TO BED.
This entire forum is so absurdly biased towards Ronnie. As is my experience, the only people who like Ronnie are teenage girls and gay men. If I ever meet a straight man that likes Ronnie Radke’s pre-pubescent voice, I will come back here and submit myself to the fan boys/girls and trolls for my punishment. Until then, I will enjoy Craig’s more mature attitude, voice, and style in peace.
mature?! so the ‘battle’ that is going on between ETF and FIR’s songs are mature?! yes, very mature. And also, it’s not peaceful.
Can anyone on this fucking forum spell correctly?
I definitely think Ronnie is waaaay better then Craig, but c’mon… It looks like Craig is trying his best and this problem is about Max and Ronnie, so why bring Craig into it?
I love Ronnie but I kinda feel sorry for Craig … BTW Max is such a bitch
How about we all stop bitching Escape the Fate are good with both singers. Who cares if one fucked up and got arrested? He’s in another band and for someone that apparently does drugs and all that he is doing pretty fucking well in it. just stop hating on all of them both bands and singers are good
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Can I just say that Max really can’t go on and on about how he old him not to ‘take a knife to fist fight’ and get all your friends for backup’ or whatever he said. Because he went to it. If he didn’t want Ronnie to go and if he didn’t want to have anything to do with it he shouldn’t have gone. So don’t put Ronnie in the deep end when Max went too.
Ronnie made that band u are nothing without him